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 **in my opinion [[Ecosystem_gardening]] is much less anthropocentric than suggested here and has nothing to do with growing crops.** **in my opinion [[Ecosystem_gardening]] is much less anthropocentric than suggested here and has nothing to do with growing crops.**
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 I am talking here specific about the Amazon and even though it is not orthodoxy yet, the long-lived idea that the Amazon is 'virgin' and pristine is being replaced with a view of the Amazon as a product of human history. This includes the native people who live from it but also the forest itself. I will make it myself easy here and just refer you to [[http://books.google.com/books?id=XnELAAAAYAAJ]] by Charles Mann which contains the best overview in print and cannot be recommended enough.  I am talking here specific about the Amazon and even though it is not orthodoxy yet, the long-lived idea that the Amazon is 'virgin' and pristine is being replaced with a view of the Amazon as a product of human history. This includes the native people who live from it but also the forest itself. I will make it myself easy here and just refer you to [[http://books.google.com/books?id=XnELAAAAYAAJ]] by Charles Mann which contains the best overview in print and cannot be recommended enough. 
 What it breaks down is the hard distinction between gardening and foraging: foraging becomes, to a certain degree, time-lapse gardening.  What it breaks down is the hard distinction between gardening and foraging: foraging becomes, to a certain degree, time-lapse gardening. 
 +The [[Ecosystem_gardening]] page as it stand now is not really containing what it says. 
  
 **The tribals we met in India, living in stone-age conditions, had little knowledge about plants beyond their use.** **The tribals we met in India, living in stone-age conditions, had little knowledge about plants beyond their use.**
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 This paper is an important entry point into the discussion: [[http://www.sas.upenn.edu/anthro/system/files/Erickson2006.pdf This paper is an important entry point into the discussion: [[http://www.sas.upenn.edu/anthro/system/files/Erickson2006.pdf
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 +====== I'd like to add that research done by Willie Smits on Borneo has shown Orang-utans to use pruning and weeding and sowing. ======
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 +Ah! Just as language is part of primate evolution, so might be species cultivation. Can I point out another interesting (Dutch) researcher: Marc van Roosmalen: [[http://socialfiction.org/?tag=roosmalen]] his book contains a fascinating explanation on how to learn to survive in a tropical forest. 
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