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 I am currently playing with parameters: sample source, design geometry, electrode materials, nature of the proton exchange membrane (PEM), water source... To understand better the drivers of electrical power delivered by these Quick & Dirty MFCs. I am currently playing with parameters: sample source, design geometry, electrode materials, nature of the proton exchange membrane (PEM), water source... To understand better the drivers of electrical power delivered by these Quick & Dirty MFCs.
  
-So far, the peak power I measured was 0.5 mW [[michka:research:microbial_fuel_cells:Bruxelles2|during my experiments in Brussels]], which is still not sufficient.+So far, the peak power I measured was 0.5 mW [[michka:research:microbial_fuel_cells:Bruxelles2|during my experiments in Brussels]], which is still not sufficient to power a LED.
  
 (see also [[:fuel_cell]] for futher info...) (see also [[:fuel_cell]] for futher info...)
  
-====Inspirations====+These preliminary experiments layed the ground for the "Power of the mud" project created with robotic artist [[http://www.zprod.org/zwp/|Paul Granjon]]. 
 + 
 +====Litterature====
  
 I started this research by looking for existing quick & dirty designs online. I found two main categories of designs I started this research by looking for existing quick & dirty designs online. I found two main categories of designs
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 The **[[http://www.treehugger.com/slideshows/gadgets/make-microbial-fuel-cell/page/1/#slide-top| one-container design]]** is made from one container, sludge at the bottom, smart gel proton exchanger on top of it, and clean water on the very top. No air pump, but lower performances. Something like charcoal is used as an electrode material. The **[[http://www.treehugger.com/slideshows/gadgets/make-microbial-fuel-cell/page/1/#slide-top| one-container design]]** is made from one container, sludge at the bottom, smart gel proton exchanger on top of it, and clean water on the very top. No air pump, but lower performances. Something like charcoal is used as an electrode material.
  
-===High-School Project Presentation=== 
  
-[[http://prezi.com/aw1kjprkgphz/tpe-comment-augmenter-et-utiliser-la-production-denergie-a-partir-dexcrement-de-cheval/|This is]] a presentation made by a group of students on low-tech horse-crap-based MFCs, with actual power figures in it (about 100mW for 120g of horsecrap).+I also found a [[http://prezi.com/aw1kjprkgphz/tpe-comment-augmenter-et-utiliser-la-production-denergie-a-partir-dexcrement-de-cheval/|presentation]] made by a group of students on low-tech horse-crap-based MFCs, with actual power figures in it (about 100mW for 120g of horsecrap). Interesting aspect of their designs: they use a small sponge covered with rocks as a proton exchange membrane.
  
 ====Experiments==== ====Experiments====
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    * [[michka:research:microbial_fuel_cells:Bruxelles2|Bruxelles2]]    * [[michka:research:microbial_fuel_cells:Bruxelles2|Bruxelles2]]
    * [[michka:research:microbial_fuel_cells:Marseille3|Marseille3]]    * [[michka:research:microbial_fuel_cells:Marseille3|Marseille3]]
 +   * [[http://fablabo.net/wiki/Pile_microbienne|Nantes4 (in French)]]
 +   * [[michka:research:microbial_fuel_cells:Cardiff5|Cardiff5]]
 +   * [[michka:research:microbial_fuel_cells:Cardiff5|Cardiff6]]
 +   * [[michka:research:microbial_fuel_cells:Cardiff5|Brussels7]]
 +   * [[michka:research:microbial_fuel_cells:Cardiff5|Cardiff8]]
  
 ====Design Improvements Ideas==== ====Design Improvements Ideas====
  
-===Airpump===+===Electrical integration===
  
-   * Is the air pump giving more than what it pumps in terms of energy ? +* Try to integrate the MFC with a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t4DumnpFLA|Joule Thief]] and supercapacitors to see if we can obtain a functional system for intermittent power generation.
-   * Could we make a mechanical airpump coupled with a windmill ? +
-   * Could we improve the cathode design to remove the airpump ?+
  
 ===Sludge=== ===Sludge===
  
    * Could we use compost tea as a sludge source ?    * Could we use compost tea as a sludge source ?
-     * See [[michka:research:microbial_fuel_cells:Bruxelles2|here]] for performances obtained with compost tea.+     * See [[michka:research:microbial_fuel_cells:Bruxelles2|here]] for the quite good performances obtained with compost tea.
    * Does it also work with usual soil ?    * Does it also work with usual soil ?
 +     * A brief experiment in [[michka:research:microbial_fuel_cells:Marseille3|Marseille]] gave bad signs. The battery was flat after two hours on measurements. However, longer-term experiments should be performed to let time to the anaerobic bacterial consortium to develop.
    * How can we keep feeding the sludge, to make the fuel cell operation continuous ?    * How can we keep feeding the sludge, to make the fuel cell operation continuous ?
 +     * Reverse the design, to allow waste to be piled up on top of a nutrients pile for the MFC, and be slowly degraded.
  
 ===Electrodes=== ===Electrodes===
  
    * Does the efficiency drops if we use flat electrodes from dead batteries ?    * Does the efficiency drops if we use flat electrodes from dead batteries ?
 +     * Actually, the [[michka:research:microbial_fuel_cells:bruxelles2|best power value measured so far]] was obtained with copper electrodes from dead batteries (scraps from the [[michka:research:supercapacitors|supercapacitors research workshop]]).
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 +===Airpump===
 +
 +   * Is the electric air pump giving more energy than what it pumps ?
 +     * Most probably not.
 +   * Could we make a mechanical airpump coupled with a windmill ?
 +     * Probably. But how useful would this be ? We should maybe focus on gathering the energy of the windmill.
 +   * Could we improve the cathode design to remove the airpump ?
  
-====Other kinds of batteries====+====Related====
  
-   * Molten salt batteries +   * Other battery designs: 
-     * Donald Sadaway, TED +     * Molten salt batteries 
-     * Zebra battery+       * [[http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_sadoway_the_missing_link_to_renewable_energy?language=fr|Donald Sadaway, TED]] 
 +       * Zebra battery
    * Rhubarb battery    * Rhubarb battery

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