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--- resilients:control_of_the_commons [2011-12-07 00:09] – [Potential places on the river to visit] 113.197.13.1
+++ resilients:control_of_the_commons [2011-12-16 02:30] – [Participants and Contributors:] 113.197.13.1
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 The Murray river will involve the second construction of a vessel and the first journey. The construction will happen in Port Adelaide, transport to the launching place will be from our support team.
+One questio that remains very open is our expected speed along the river. Which is closely dependent upon the water speed. On one extreme we have:
+"With the exception of Weir 6, Murtho, the weir pool of each storage extends to the storage upstream. Therefore, the River Murray between Blanchetown and Wentworth is more like a series of lakes than a lowland river, particularly when river flows are low." from http://www.murrayriver.com.au/about-the-murray/locks-weirs-dams-barrages/
+From the flow rate measurements, estimating the river width at around 150m and the depth 4m (probably too deep) we get a speed around 500 m / hour, i.e. half a kmh. because we overestimate the cross section of the river, this number is probably too low.
+From people travelling on various European rivers, upstream as well as downstream, we have travel distances around 40 km per day. This seems too high.
 ===  Dates (proposed)  ===
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   * waterproof camera
   * anchor
+  * First Aid kit
+  * fenders
+  * bicycle
+  * Bike-powered power supply (Greer brings this)
 ==Expendables and things that will not be returned==
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   * Greer Allen: journey, bikes, adventure,  http://magnificentrevolutionaustralia.org/
   * Simon and Pix : Bike drive for Parade (Hackerspace Adelaide)  http://hackerspace-adelaide.org.au/
-  * Cobi Smith: journey, community contacts, adventure, parade wrangling http://riaus.org.au/
+  * Deb Shaw: parade wrangling  http://riaus.org.au/
+  * Cobi Smith: journey, community contacts, adventure, http://riaus.org.au/
   * Tim X: journey
   * Tim Boykett: journey, boats, planning (eek!) http://timesup.org
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   * Andreas Strauss: journey, pedal drive (tentative)  http://andreasstrauss.com/
-==== Potential collaborators on the river? ====
+==== Potential collaborators in towns on the river? ====
   * McCormick Centre for the Environment in Renmark:
 http://www.murrayriver.com.au/river-management/mccormick/