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 The Murray river will involve the second construction of a vessel and the first journey. The construction will happen in Port Adelaide, transport to the launching place will be from our support team. The Murray river will involve the second construction of a vessel and the first journey. The construction will happen in Port Adelaide, transport to the launching place will be from our support team.
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 +One question that remains very open is our expected speed along the river. Which is closely dependent upon the water speed. On one extreme we have:
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 +"With the exception of Weir 6, Murtho, the weir pool of each storage extends to the storage upstream. Therefore, the River Murray between Blanchetown and Wentworth is more like a series of lakes than a lowland river, particularly when river flows are low." from http://www.murrayriver.com.au/about-the-murray/locks-weirs-dams-barrages/
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 +From the flow rate measurements, estimating the river width at around 150m and the depth 4m (probably too deep) we get a speed around 500 m / hour, i.e. half a kmh. because we overestimate the cross section of the river, this number is probably too low.
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 +From people travelling on various European rivers, upstream as well as downstream, we have travel distances around 40 km per day. This seems too high. 
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 ===  Dates (proposed)  === ===  Dates (proposed)  ===
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 === Supplies === === Supplies ===
 Things we will need: please edit as things become available. Things we will need: please edit as things become available.
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 +Short version here, long version below:
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 +==Tools and things we can return==
 +  * power tools: saws, planes, welding gear, etc
 +  * cables
 +  * Handtools: saws, hammers, spanners, chisels, etc
 +  * Radio or outback telephony
 +  * anchor, fenders
 +  * First Aid kit
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 +==Expendables and things that will not be returned==
 +  * Hull(s): dinghies, windsurfers (old, large)
 +  * canvas or other cloth for sails
 +  * Wood for mast (simple pole) max 450cm, and for yard
 +  * bamboo for battens
 +  * rope and small cord 
 +  * pulleys
 +  * construction wood and plywood for floors, lee boards, etc
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 ==Tools and things we can return== ==Tools and things we can return==
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   * Camping equipment: flies, mosquito nets, tents, sleeping mats, hammocks, cooking gear   * Camping equipment: flies, mosquito nets, tents, sleeping mats, hammocks, cooking gear
   * Radio or outback telephony   * Radio or outback telephony
 +  * Storage battery and Inverter (12V DC to 220V AC)
   * waterproof camera   * waterproof camera
   * anchor   * anchor
 +  * First Aid kit
 +  * fenders
 +  * bicycle
 +  * Bike-powered power supply (Greer brings this)
  
 ==Expendables and things that will not be returned== ==Expendables and things that will not be returned==
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 The following people have registered interest. Contact coc (at) timesup.org if you would like to join in for building or (part of) the journey. The following people have registered interest. Contact coc (at) timesup.org if you would like to join in for building or (part of) the journey.
  
-  * Greer Allen: journey, bikes, adventure,  http://magnificentrevolutionaustralia.org/+  * Greer Allen: journey, bikes, adventure,  www.magrev.org.au/
   * Simon and Pix : Bike drive for Parade (Hackerspace Adelaide)  http://hackerspace-adelaide.org.au/   * Simon and Pix : Bike drive for Parade (Hackerspace Adelaide)  http://hackerspace-adelaide.org.au/
-  * Cobi Smith: journey, community contacts, adventure, parade wrangling http://riaus.org.au/+  * Deb Shaw: parade wrangling  http://riaus.org.au/ 
 +  * Cobi Smith: journey, community contacts, adventure, http://riaus.org.au/
   * Tim X: journey   * Tim X: journey
   * Tim Boykett: journey, boats, planning (eek!) http://timesup.org   * Tim Boykett: journey, boats, planning (eek!) http://timesup.org
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